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Orbz
post Apr 18, 2008, 01:13 AM
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I just read this article....
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idU...lBrandChannel=0
'Catholic schools must follow church teaching: Pope'

And found these two statements by Ratzinger:
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"I wish to reaffirm the great value of academic freedom ... you are called to search for the truth wherever careful analysis of evidence leads you."

and in the next paragraph...
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"Any appeal to the principle of academic freedom in order to justify positions that contradict the faith and the teaching of the Church would obstruct or even betray the university's identity and mission."

Aren't these remarkably contradictory? Is the pope actually trying to be irrelevant?
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post Apr 18, 2008, 12:04 PM
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No not irrelevant, profound. Banking on a structured science of teaching ignorance or dogma, belief often leaves objectivity weak. In other words if you are schooled by an institution that sees life one way without expanding beyond certain ideas, or principles of belief, relevance becomes subjective rather than objective.
The nature of objectivity is that vision is limited to containment of what is in the box according to authority.

To give an example. In the most recent sexual abuse complaints now entertained by the media certain cardinals who were accused of sexual abuse were moved to different positions within the church to avoid any further exposure to an already wounded congregation. When the church was petitioned for justice, the position taken is we know best what happened and what must be done, lets leave it at that.

Not unlike the recent LDS scandal regarding the impropriety of polygamy and sexual abuse, the authority within the system dictates truth to a closed system of beliefs rather than an objective system schooled in many beliefs or a system relative to the objectivity of belief systems.
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post Apr 22, 2008, 04:50 PM
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QUOTE(Orbz @ Apr 17, 2008, 11:13 PM) *

Aren't these remarkably contradictory? Is the pope actually trying to be irrelevant?

In George Orwell's novel 1984, doublethink is defined as simultaneously holding two contradictory thoughts or beliefs. In that novel, the ability to doublethink was a highly regarded skill cultivated by the elite of the society. The Pope is merely providing us with an example to emulate. </satire>
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post Jun 15, 2008, 05:11 AM
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One day Catholic church will understand that it should extensively fund scientific researches of different kinds. I think Joseph slowly comes to that revolutionary idea in Theology.
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